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cliff could have on this country's economy. prior to the president's statement, the gloomy outlook for a deal was evident on wall street. the dow fail 158 points or 1.2% to settle at 12,938. fifth straight day of decline on the street. i would like to bring in david nakamura of "the washington post" and david jackson of "usa today." how conscious are our leaders in d.c. of the ripple effect this could have and how conscious are consumers of what might be about to hit them? >> well, the white house is very conscious of it it. they may have the political advantage of this deal, but the fiscal cliff could tip the country back into a recession. consumers are worried they'll start to pick up on the news and once it hits their paychecks they'll definitely feel it. >> do you think the consumers are paying as close attention as we'd like to think that they are. i think they are even though it's holiday time and going back to businesses and i was at the white house when president obama had a series of businesses with small business and
cliff could have on this country's economy. prior to the president's statement, the gloomy outlook for a deal was evident on wall street. the dow fail 158 points or 1.2% to settle at 12,938. fifth straight day of decline on the street. i would like to bring in david nakamura of "the washington post" and david jackson of "usa today." how conscious are our leaders in d.c. of the ripple effect this could have and how conscious are consumers of what might be about to hit them?...
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they had a grim outlook for a fiscal cliff deal and the impact of the tragedy in newtown. on the radar this morning, chilling details in the christmas eve firefighter ambush. we could find out soon who will be saying aloha to the senate and a broken record in the house of representatives. new details out of webster, new york. william spangler set a car and house on fire and ambushed firefighters, opening fire on them as they arrive on the scene. police found a note he left behind saying he wanted to burn down the neighborhood and do what i like doing best, killing people. a convicted felon who spent 17 years in prison for killing his grandmother with a hammer was armed with three firearms including a bushmaster, the same gun used in the school massacre. he may have killed his sister and the home had human remains believed to be hers. >> police say spangler took his own life. governor neal abercrombie, democrats are urging a swift deployment so the replacement can on a deficit deal. of abercrombie's options, congresswoman colleen anabusha and senator inouye's dying wish is
they had a grim outlook for a fiscal cliff deal and the impact of the tragedy in newtown. on the radar this morning, chilling details in the christmas eve firefighter ambush. we could find out soon who will be saying aloha to the senate and a broken record in the house of representatives. new details out of webster, new york. william spangler set a car and house on fire and ambushed firefighters, opening fire on them as they arrive on the scene. police found a note he left behind saying he...
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cliff is a way that we would put a ton of economic damage in the economy and a lot of uncertainty about whether washington can govern. but just as important or using that fiscal cliff and not going over it and using that moment to put that bigger debt deal that you were talking about into place and it seems that policymakers who all know we need to do it with both the spending, and just unwilling to make the hard choices and that will be another december and if we have some kind of bipartisan punt that makes the situation worse, not better and citizens across the country and they shouldn't expect this, and in the long run. >> and it has not been able to come under -- this is what he wrote of you, in part, quote, she, like pretty much all of the deficits go, actually empowers hyperpartisanship by always condemning both sides equally no matter who is, and in practice, these days that almost always means making excuses for hard liners and the gop. are you an excusemaker? >> listen, anybody who is a member of congress was elected and sent there. that means that they reflect the voters and t
cliff is a way that we would put a ton of economic damage in the economy and a lot of uncertainty about whether washington can govern. but just as important or using that fiscal cliff and not going over it and using that moment to put that bigger debt deal that you were talking about into place and it seems that policymakers who all know we need to do it with both the spending, and just unwilling to make the hard choices and that will be another december and if we have some kind of bipartisan...
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to some degree depending on your analysis of what the fiscal cliff means to get the policies they want. why is it -- i ask you this seriously. i don't know the answer. why does it seem like the president still doesn't get that? >> for whatever reason, it is hard important me to delve too deeply into psychology here but -- this president has always approached washington in a bit after different mindset. i think the lesson he took from the election might be different from what his supporters hoped to take from this election. there tends to be certain instant great pit indication component in terms of how the white house deals with these things. they are looking at the short term. i think that zeke's point, though, is correct. there are things the white house does get. i do think that it is important to bear in mind that there will be blames run around. i think republicans will end up looking as if they are holding things up but -- when the economy is going to get upended next week if things don't happen the way they should, even if there is no mini deal, no anything, that's bad for the c
to some degree depending on your analysis of what the fiscal cliff means to get the policies they want. why is it -- i ask you this seriously. i don't know the answer. why does it seem like the president still doesn't get that? >> for whatever reason, it is hard important me to delve too deeply into psychology here but -- this president has always approached washington in a bit after different mindset. i think the lesson he took from the election might be different from what his...
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does anybody, say, what's the story on the fiscal cliff, or can you believe these bozos in washington? >> the bozos in washington is what i'm more often asked about. what really bothers me is when you look at the fact that people that are depending on unemployment insurance and people worried about payroll taxes going up. everyone acts like that's not a big thing. there will not be an immediate impact. there will be some immediate impact for some people, which is why you have consumer confidence down. there are investors and people deeming with the debt start to see i increase my interest because these guys can't run a government, you're looking at going toward a recession where we're playing politics in washington. this is very serious. this is not just beltway rhetoric here. i think that people need to understand to the point of calling their congressional representative in outrage today saying, we should not be at this point. they're playing politics with the actual livelihood of families. this is not something that it will be all right a week or two or three or four. we start to g
does anybody, say, what's the story on the fiscal cliff, or can you believe these bozos in washington? >> the bozos in washington is what i'm more often asked about. what really bothers me is when you look at the fact that people that are depending on unemployment insurance and people worried about payroll taxes going up. everyone acts like that's not a big thing. there will not be an immediate impact. there will be some immediate impact for some people, which is why you have consumer...
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you think the fiscal cliff thing is bad for the economy. you wait and see if they can't get the debt ceiling worked out. >> right. it's one thing to go over the fiscal cliff. that would be bad. we don't want to it happen. a recession may happen. it would be unfortunate. it's different than the u.s. defaulting on the debt. you know, we saw that back in august, 2011, we saw the downgrade of the credit rating. just by having the threat of not approving the debt ceiling increase and the possibility of default. it comes around again at the end of february, beginning of march. it's a time when there's a deal. if the deal does not include the debt ceiling, more damaging effects on the confidence. >> here we go again. neil irwin, it's good. economic editor. three ways they can mess this thing up next year. thank you so much. we'll talk to you again soon. we are 20 minutes to the top of the hour now. there have been major setbacks in the deal talks. we are just getting this news, a major setback in negotiations over a fiscal cliff deal. senator reid
you think the fiscal cliff thing is bad for the economy. you wait and see if they can't get the debt ceiling worked out. >> right. it's one thing to go over the fiscal cliff. that would be bad. we don't want to it happen. a recession may happen. it would be unfortunate. it's different than the u.s. defaulting on the debt. you know, we saw that back in august, 2011, we saw the downgrade of the credit rating. just by having the threat of not approving the debt ceiling increase and the...
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>> the fiscal cliff would happen like in 2014. >> so bush tax cuts for the top 2%? >> keep those. the whole shabang. what we need is more money to go to the economy to keep things afloat. and this is not the time to figure out how we're going to reduce that. it doesn't -- it's not quite that important right now. >> picking up on that point, you're very closely following that stuff in washington, it looks like, my interpretation of this and tell me if i'm wrong, the payroll tax is basically gone already? >> i totally agree. it's not even being mentioned and the reason is, obama's last offer -- we actually had obama and boehner still negotiating in good faith, passing deals back and forth and this was included. he dropped his demand for having an extension of the payroll tax holiday in which the payroll tax was dropped from 6.2 to 2.4%. he dropped it. the stimulus offer shrank from 425 billion to 175 billion. so it's something he's already given up. you had tim geithner saying earlier in the year that, you know, this a payroll tax holiday is just that. it's a holiday. they're not su
>> the fiscal cliff would happen like in 2014. >> so bush tax cuts for the top 2%? >> keep those. the whole shabang. what we need is more money to go to the economy to keep things afloat. and this is not the time to figure out how we're going to reduce that. it doesn't -- it's not quite that important right now. >> picking up on that point, you're very closely following that stuff in washington, it looks like, my interpretation of this and tell me if i'm wrong, the...
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he also referenced the impending fiscal cliff, which threatens to derail the economy if a compromise can't be reached by next week on those big unanswered issues. with both sides locked in the standoff, house republicans are calling on senate democrats to act first. democrats aren't budging much on their demands. they want to extend tax cuts and incomes below $250,000, prolong unemployment benefits, and delay those sweeping spending cuts. sam stein. >> yes. >> what happens in -- and it appears it will happen -- we go off the fiscal cliff for a few days? >> not much, is my understanding. kwb, over time, it will have much more of an impact, and it's unknown exactly what the market's psyche will do with respect to the government's inability to come together. with respect to the tax hikes, it won't be as bad as the rhetoric is suggesting early on. whether it's enough to actually get people to get back to the negotiating table -- because i agree with you, i think we're going to go over that deadline, that's the big question. what kind of political ramifications it will have. it's not as i
he also referenced the impending fiscal cliff, which threatens to derail the economy if a compromise can't be reached by next week on those big unanswered issues. with both sides locked in the standoff, house republicans are calling on senate democrats to act first. democrats aren't budging much on their demands. they want to extend tax cuts and incomes below $250,000, prolong unemployment benefits, and delay those sweeping spending cuts. sam stein. >> yes. >> what happens in -- and...